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This section covers the basics behind GarageBand’s functionality and Digital Audio. We will show you how to get things up and running while learning some fundamentals of the digital recording process. If you are new to working with digital audio or even creating music, GarageBand makes it easy for you to get started with Magic GarageBand. This section of the tutorial will get you making music and help you share it to give it a listen, or export it into a full GarageBand project. Once you have the basics it is time to dive in and start building your project in. In this GarageBand tutorial We will cover everything from how to create your first track, to giving you and in depth exploration of the interface, to recording multiple tracks at once, and much more.

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Delay No other effect is perhaps as important for recreating Gilmour’s tone as delay. From subtle repeats to long sustained notes and massive walls of sound, delay or echo is an essential part of your setup.

In this feature we’ll look at a handful of models and how to incorporate these in your rig, with David Gilmour’s tones in mind. Delay, or echo, has been employed by producers and guitarists since the early 50s.

From experimenting with reverb and tape recorders, to the echo machines of the 60s and 70s and the digital era of the 80s and 90s, delay has always been an important ingredient in modern music. David Gilmour and delay David’s first rig was very much inspired by Syd but also contemporary guitarists, like Jimi Hendrix and Hank Marvin. In addition to fuzz and wah, he employed Binson echo machines for delay and reverb. Its haunting tone is a huge part of David’s and Floyd’s sound up until Animals (1977). In the late 70s, David swapped his old Binson with more reliable digital units. The MXR Digital Delay provided pristine programmable delay, which was needed for the more complex setups and productions. Throughout the 80s and 90s, David would employ different units used for different applications, including the legendary TC Electronics 2290 system.

See the for a complete listing. Echo, digital delay or reverb? David’s tones can be divided in two.

From Saucerful of Secrets (1968) to Wish You Were Here (1975) you want an analog unit or at least a good digital tape/analog sim for those warm and organic sounding repeats. From Animals (1977) to present you want a digital delay for cleaner and more pristine sounds. A unit with a display will also allow you to dial in precise settings for songs like Another Brick in the Wall and Run Like Hell. The reverb effect is designed to simulate the space and dimension you naturally get from playing in different environments. As a rule, reverb is best used for either specific effects or in a recording situation.

Drenching your guitar with reverb in a band setup, will not only be in addition to the reverb you get from the room but also make your tone dull, muddy and less dynamic.. Delay on the pedalboard Delay or echo is usually placed last in the chain. If your board feature a volume pedal, placing the delays in front of it will allow your tones to sustain and swell, even when you lower or mute the volume. Some prefer having one delay on each side of the volume pedal to be able to both get that ringing sustain and a complete mute when that is required.

If you rely on your amp to produce overdrive and distortion, then you might want to place your delay or echo in the amp’s effects loop (if it has one). Placing delays in front of a distorted amp can be a cool effect but it will also sound pretty messy depending on how much gain the amp is producing. Keep in mind that the effects loop on some amps may be noisy and it can also have a bad effect on your top frequencies.

Settings Most delay units does not have a display for setting accurate time settings. Some have tap tempo, which allows you to tap in the tempo with your foot following the tempo or beat of the song.

Still, in most cases you will have to have some references and make some markings on the time control to be able to remember the specific time settings. A good rule of thumb is that all Floyd recordings between 1967-1975 can be set up with about 300ms, which is aprox the maximum time of the Binson Echorec II. Use Garageband, Logic or similar software (lots of free stuff out there), set up a track with a delay plug-in set at 300ms and match your pedal with the plug-in. Another trick, is to listen to Heart Beat Pig Meat off Zabriskie Point and learn the intro by heart. If you can play that, your time setting is fine! Time settings between Animals and Final Cut were usually around 440ms, while the later albums had more sophisticated settings and individual settings for each song.

Again, use a software and match your pedal and make markings. See the for specific settings for each song. Level (mix) and feedback (repeats) depends on what tones you want and how the pedal responds to your guitar, amp and other pedals. A good rule is to keep the repeats around 5-7.

Anything above that will sound pretty messy unless that’s what you want. The level is often sensitive to the overall tone. A dark sounding rig may need a bit more mix, while a bright and transparent rig may need less. All pedals listed below were tested on a Stratocaster featuring D Allen Voodoo 69 neck and middle pickups and a Seymour Duncan SSL5 bridge pickups into a Reeves Custom 50, Laney Lionheart L20h, Laney Cub12 and Fender Blues Jr III.

Digital delay The term digital delay is often used to describe the modern sounding, pristine and accurate delay. However, digital delay processors are also capable of producing convincing analog and tape simulation, without all the hassle of the older units. TC Electronics Nova Delay Similar to the Eventide, the Nova feature a wide range of high quality studio, including the classic 2290 rack unit. Despite its overwhelming exterior, the Nova is very easy to operate and you can tailor your sounds and presents exactly how you want them. A cool feature is the “spillover”, which allows the delay ring when you switch off the pedal.

Eventide or Nova? Personally I find the Nova slightly warmer sounding and the smaller footprint is also a bonus. It’s also worth checking out the Repeater – a scaled down “budget” version of the Nova, with the same high quality sounds. Noise level: 10/10 Delay time: 2290ms Tap tempo: yes Bypass: buffered Gilmour tones: ASoS – Rattle Line 6 DL4 Being one of the very first multi delay stomp box units on the market, the DL4 is still pretty much an industry standard. Packed with simulations of just about every tape machine and delay effect ever produced, the DL4 is a powerful unit, with impressive sounding tones and few unique features as well.

Perhaps not as hi-end sounding as the Eventide or Nova but definitely more mojo than the two. In any case, the DL4 is a better choice than the Boss DD-20.

Noise level: 10/10 Delay time: 7 seconds Tap tempo: yes Bypass: true bypass Gilmour tones: ASoS – Rattle Boss DD-20 Much like the Timefactor and Nova, the DD20 is a powerful multi processor covering just about any delay tone you need, including digital delay, tape and modulated. There’s also a very cool Sound on Sound feature (not quite like David’s effect but close), storing/banking of presets and seamless change between patches. The DD20 is like all Boss pedals – OK but a bit sterile and bright sounding. It’s also a bit too noisy to be up there with the studio quality models. Noise level: 6/10 Delay time: 23 seconds Tap tempo: yes Bypass: buffered Gilmour tones: ASoS – Rattle Boss DD-2 The DD2 has long been one of my favourite digital delay pedals.

It’s a fairly bright sounding but it has a nice analog flavour nonetheless and it works especially well with distortions and the Big Muff in particular. These old Japanese Boss pedals are starting to get pricy but you should still be able to get one for a decent price off EBay and it’s well worth it!

Noise level: 10/10 Delay time: 800ms Tap tempo: no Bypass: buffered Gilmour tones: Wall – Rattle Boss DD-3/7 Whereas the DD-2 has an almost analog chime, the new generation of Boss’ digital units sound a bit sterile and less musical. In my opinion, the Flashback is a much better option but both the DD-3 and DD-7 are packed with features and the price and availability are hard to beat. In terms of David’s tones, both cover most of Animals to present. Noise level: 10/10 Delay time: 3200ms Tap tempo: DD-7 only Bypass: buffered Gilmour tones: Wall – Rattle TC Electronics Flashback The Flashback is probably one of the best buys you can make in terms of tone, features and price. It’s basically a Nova, stripped for all the extras and cramped into a much smaller footprint. It’s got all the classic tones, including a lovely tape with warble, reverse, 40 seconds looper and of course the 2290 digital delay – all with the same studio quality as the Nova. Highly recommended for budget and bedroom setups.

Noise level: 10/10 Delay time: 7 seconds Tap tempo: yes Bypass: true bypass Gilmour tones: ASoS – Rattle TC Electronic Alter Ego V2 The Alter Ego first came out a few years back as a collaboration between Pro Guitar Shop and TC Electronic. The result was OK but a bit disappointing, compared to the Flashback. The V2 is a complete overhaul and it sounds really great. The Alter Ego feature 9 classic echo sounds, including the Binson, Memory Man and Echo Plex. Of course, these units were analog, with all their mojo and flaws, which can’t be replicated with a single patch in a digital unit but what you get for the price and size is impressive and an excellent alternative to the more expensive clones. The Tone Print feature also allow further fine tuning of the sounds. Noise level: 10/10 Delay time: varies Tap tempo: yes Bypass: true bypass/buffered Gilmour tones: ASoS – Animals Be sure to check out the full Flashback series, with the Mini, Triple and x4, in addition to the standard model.

The mini is a Tone Print only, allowing you to create a custom delay tone and beam it into the pedal on the fly. The Triple is, as the name implies, three delays in one, allowing different patches and settings or all together at once. The X4 is essentially four Flashbacks in one pedal, with the same features as the Standard. Analog echo Back in the 1950-70s, analog meant huge machines that produced heavenly echo but required a lot of maintenance. Today, there’s a wide range of both true analog and digital simulators in all shapes and sizes, delivering classic tones. Gurus Amps Echosex 2 The Echosex is an attempt at capturing the Binson tone and mojo but with a more minimalistic set of features. Kind of a Memory Man meets the Binson.

The tube driven, fully analog signal path creates some of the warmest and most 3D-like repeats on the market, with that Binson percussive attack and natural decay. It’s big and expensive and compared to the Dawner Prince Boonar, it’s missing most of the Binson features, but the tone is hard to beat. Highly recommended! Noise level: 10/10 Delay time: 440ms Tap tempo: no Bypass: true bypass Gilmour tones: ASoS – WYWH Dawner Prince Boonar The Boonar is a faithful replication of the Binson Echorec 2, cramped into a MXR-sized chassis, packed with all the classic features. In addition to the similar looking exterior and authentic controls, the Boonar feature four individual selectors for the playback heads and an on/off stomp switch for single repeats or that reverb-like swell. Compared to the Gurus Echosex and Catalinbread’s Echorec, the Boonar is one the brighter side tone-wise but it has no doubt the most authentic sounding repeats and impressive details in each note. It takes some time to figure it all out but this is probably the closest you’ll get to the full Binson experience.

Noise level: 10/10 Delay time: 1000ms Tap tempo: no Bypass: true bypass Gilmour tones: ASoS – WYWH Boss RE-20 The RE-20 is a faithful recreation of the legendary Roland Space Echo from the early 70s. With Boss’ digital modeling technology you’ll get warm analog echo with impressive simulation of the tape heads and tape flutter, without all the hiss and noise. The RE-20 is (surprisingly) an often overlooked alternative but excellent choice for David’s Binson Echorec tones of the early 70s. Noise level: 9/10 Delay time: n/a Tap tempo: yes Bypass: buffered Gilmour tones: ASoS – WYWH TRex Replica Based on the TC Vintage Delay and the classic EHX (Deluxe) Memory Man, the Replica produce perhaps the warmest sounding analog delay on the market, with organic sounding repeats ideal for replicating David’s 1968-75 Binson tones.

A bit expensive for a single unit but it’s hard to beat the sweet mojo of this pedal. It’s also worth checking out the Replica’s little brother, the Reptile, which feature tap tempo and modulation.

Noise level: 10/10 Delay time: n/a Tap tempo: yes Bypass: true bypass Gilmour tones: ASoS – Animals MXR Carbon Copy The Carbon Copy is one of the more popular analog echo pedals on the market. It’s perhaps a bit too dark for some and personally I prefer the Replica or Memory Man but the Carbon Copy is an excellent choice for David’s early 70s Binson echo tones. There’s also on board modulation for authentic sounding tape flutter. Noise level: 7/10 Delay time: 600ms Tap tempo: no Bypass: true bypass Gilmour tones: ASoS – Animals EHX Deluxe Memory Man A true legend, the Memory Man is perhaps one of the finest and most influential analog delays ever produced.

Like all of EHX’s 70s line, the DMM has its flaws, with noise issues and volume drop, but this thing sounds beautiful and super organic. This is The Edge-in-a-box and an excellent option for David’s 70s echo tones. The new XO reissue is true to the old circuit, with very little noise and true bypass. It’s perhaps lost some of the mojo but it still sounds sweet. Noise level: 7/10 Delay time: 550ms Tap tempo: no Bypass: hardwire bypass/ XO true bypass Gilmour tones: ASoS – Animals EHX Memory Boy XO/Memory Toy Nano The Memory Boy is basically a smaller and more affordable version of the Memory Man, with more emphasis on the modulation features. It’s got some very nice analog delay tones but lack the warmth and the headroom of the old Memory Man.

The Memory Toy is identical to the Memory Boy, stripped down to the essentials. Again, a darker sounding delay unit, compared to the Memory Man, less headroom and not as organic sounding. However, it’s still a very good sounding analog unit that should fit even the tightest budgets. Noise level: 10/10 Delay time: 550ms Tap tempo: yes Bypass: true bypass Gilmour tones: ASoS – Animals Strymon El Capistan Like all Strymon pedals, the El Capistan in loaded with features and impressive tones. This is the Rolls Royce of analog simulation and the pedal deliver everything from pristine studio quality to unique worn out tape warble, with all the noise, dark decay and flutter of the old machines.

It would be interesting to see how close Strymon could get to a Binson, if they ever decided to go down that road but the El Capistan cover a lot of ground, including David’s 70s tones. It may look intimidating but it’s very easy to operate and once you dial in your favourite tone you’ll never want to switch it off! Noise level: 10/10 Delay time: n/a Tap tempo: yes Bypass: true bypass Gilmour tones: ASoS – Animals Feel free to use the comments field below and share your experience, recommendations and tips! Thanks Bjorn. I do have exactly that type of setup in my signal chain. I actually use compression in almost everything I do. In this case I’ve tried a tube compressor but settled on a compressor/sustainer with a small amount of overdrive with a tube driver.

I also typically use 2 types of delay. Analog with a lower time set and feedback and digital with a higher time set and feedback. I’ve really tried a lot of various settings including volume controls from various sources but couldn’t get rid of the ring. I finally just lowered the mix of both delays to have a slightly drier signal which has seemed to help with the ring but hasn’t hurt my sustain. Does that sound like the right tweak to you? Is there anything else you would try? Hi Bjorn, I see it has almost been two years since someone has asked you if you tried the strymon Dig.

Just wondering if you had a chance to play it yet and your thoughts if you have? I have the dawner prince boonar so I don’t need any other types of delay except digital delay. I have had the nova delay for years and looking for something new. Personally don’t care for all in one packages just looking for info on the strymon dig and another other digital delay pedal only you might recommend. Hey Bjorn like everyone else I’m eternally grateful for your time and dedication to this site. So I have the dawned prince boonar (probably the best pedal I have bought. Ever) so I just want to get a digital delay pedal.

I don’t need an all in one pedal just a digital delay. I have had the tc electronics nova for years but ready for something new. I was wondering if you have tried the strymon dig? It seems like it should be good I just know strymon is always known for making ambient type pedals and just wanted to see if this pedal would work for that gilmourish type sound. It doesn’t have to nail his tone as I have been cultivating my own sound but I like to know that I can still get somewhat close. Thanks buddy.

Wow that was fast! Thank you so much Bjorn. I’m from Argentina and I can’t even get the Nova in here. The flashback is available but just too expensive. I actually have to ask a friend to ship it from the US but I wouldn’t want to do it without your blessing. Money is not that big of an issue but I just want what probably most of us want. The definitive pedal.

So far I’m going for: Big Muff: Vick Audio 73 Ram’s Head Compressor: MXR Custom Shop Dyna Comp ’76 reissue Phaser: MXR 1974 CS script reissue Phase 90 Delay TC Electronics Flashback The tricky part is that these have to be on amazon. I can’t ask my friend to like start an expedition to find me some pedals LOL Well anyways, love your reviews. Someone has probably mentioned it, but the Echosex 2 doesn’t have a ‘fully analog signal path’. Despite their claims on their website, the delay is created by digital pt2399 chips. I actually got into a discussion with the builder on a forum- he argued that since ‘only’ the delay line is digital and the rest of the signal path is analog, it wasn’t misleading to claim a fully analog signal path. I said that would be like saying that, since ‘only’ the patty is meat and the rest of it is grains and veggies, it’s not misleading to call a hamburger vegetarian. Hi Bjorn, I’ve really enjoyed reading this article as I’m a delay freak i love it, and have been chasing Davids delay settings etc for years.

I’ve also read with interest your section on The Wall, and noticed that you’ve said David used 2 Boss DD2 delays during the recording of Run Like Hell. I believe this is incorrect as back in 1978/79 when they were recording The Wall Boss hadn’t yet invented the compact Digital Delay, and had only just released the DM1, which was an analogue delay, and not capable of reproducing the delays heard on Run Like Hell.

I believe in the studio Gilmour used 2 MXR digital rack delays for Run Like Hell set at different delay times. The Boss DD2 wasn’t released until 1983, after The Wall tour finished, and 5 years after the recording of The Wall album. I do however believe he used the DD2 on his about face tour in the new Boss SCC-700 pedal board. You can read about the history of Boss digital delays here.

It makes for interesting reading. I don’t have any experience with the new tape delays so I can’t really comment on that. On a general note, tape delays or echo machines often produce a much more organic sound, warmer repeats and a more natural sounding flutter/modulation. They can be a real hassle to carry around if you tour a lot but great fun if you don’t mind or mostly are using them at home/studio. There are lots of great sounding simulations out there as well, like the Dawner Prince Boonar, Gurus Amps Echosex, Strymon El Capistan etc. Thanks for the tip regarding the comments.

I never really considered that:) It’s done. Wow you really did it! The comment thing I mean, your a chill dude my friend. I hope if you ever try any of the tape delays I mentioned, you’ll do a couple reviews, also, I’m sure you’ve seen the trex exhorec replica, I love that companies are making these things. I would like to say aside from airbag and your solo stuff(I track lullabies in a car crash once a week on vinyl, just chill and get inspired), you could make a ton of money writing Pink Floyd tabs and doing video lessons to go along with them, like the obscure stuffI’ve yet to find a tab video/transcript of SHine on from delicate sound of thunder, or learning to fly.

Don’t get me wrong I love to learn to play the album versions, but your a master at playing those awesome live versions. Ea Sports Cricket 2007 Ps2 Free Download Torrent. I think you’ve told me a couple years ago that you have no interest in doing the tab/lesson thing.

I’ll just have to stop being lazy and work out the arrangements on my own lol. Great work man, thanks for what you do. Oh and I’m gonna pick up the boonar, screw Catalinbread, they can keep there dumb pedals, and they need to take it easy on the modulation. Modulation alone does not make a good echo clo’mm. Thanks for the kind words!

Delay pedal settings depends very much on how the amp and the other pedals that you use it with sounds. The more compression, mid range and gain your tone has, the less delay mix you want. Too much, and the delays will be all over the place.

Like all analog delays, the Carbon is fairly dark so if that’s an issue, you might want to consider a different pedal. Time-wise, David mainly used the Binson, which had 310ms and the MXR rack, which had 440ms. I don’t remember how that applies to the Carbon but try setting up a digital delay on your computure with Garageband or similar and dial it in. Hi Bjorn, Just tired an echosex 2 today. I was pretty impressed on how it kept my core guitar tone intact, especially the low end. Only other delay pedal I have that does that is the big moogerfooger.

And the echosex is on top of that even quieter noise wise. Problem is though, the repeats on the echosex sounded a bit “soft” to my ears, even with the treble dialed up full. It was as if they didn’t decay in a very percussive way. How would the boonar differ regarding these trails and also regarding keeping my core tone sounding big and absolutely unaltered? I do hate the awkward non standard size of the boonar though:( Cheers!

If you had to choose between a T-Rex Replica and a Strymon El Capistan to replicate David’s 70s tones but also just to have a high class analog delay, which one would you pick? I’m torn between what analog pedal to get. The thing is my main goal is to be able to get close to Gilmour’s tones from the 70s but at the same time I want an analog delay that I can use to define my own sound as well (hence there being no mention of an Echorec clone). They both seem like brilliant pedals so I wanted to get your take on them. Of course, if there is a better option for what I’m trying to achieve, I’m all ears:).

Thank you very much! Have a nice summer! Any links to or proof of this “dissing”?

I’ve dealt with Phil on a number of occasions and he has always been extremely amicable. I’m not calling you a liar, but it would be nice to have some evidence to back up your claims. I will agree with you that the Echorec sim has taken far too long to develop but if it is a quality product, I for one, and I’m sure many of us here in the Gilmourish community, would be delighted to have one on our boards when it becomes available (and after Bjorn has reviewed it of course!). And as always Bjorn, your hard work here is very much appreciated! And congratulations on your amazing album! Delay is tricky because how it sounds, depends on the combination of how you’ve set the amp, what pedals you use with it and, obviously, how you’ve set the delay.

An amp with lots of mid range and perhaps a hair breakup, can make a delay sound overwhelming and you might also hear that it bleeds out in your tones. Likewise, an amp with more headroom and less mid range, can allow the delay to blend in better. It also depends on what kind of delay you’re using. An analog delay, or tape simulation, will sound darker and may not work as well for David’s more pristine tones. The more digital, brighter sounding delays, like TC or Boss, will often blend easier for stuff that you need a spesific time setting etc. I often use analog delay or echo for the pre-Animals stuff and digital delay for Animals to present. David’s often using 6-7 repeats and less volume than you might think.

HI Bjorn, As always a big thanks to keeping your gear sections current and providing great insights into options to capture David’s tone! Per your recommendation I just picked up an Echosex 2 limited Edition Delay. I couldn’t be happier with the clarity and warmth of this delay. As you stated, one gets the analog warmth without the dark character that is inherent with many other analog delays. I also picked up a Providence Chrono at the same time and am really impressed with this delay as well. They both complement each other and I feel I have David’s repertoire covered very well now.

Probably the best feature of both is their simplicity of operation. I don’t have a lot of time to spend figuring new pedals out or fussing with them. I really appreciate a well designed and intuitive effec and both fit the bill nicely.

The Rattle that Lock tour photos help me dial in the Chrono just right, so it was super helpful. Thanks again for all you do! Thank you very much for all the awesome gear guides on your page. They are really helpful! Got the Drybell Vibe Machine not least thanks to your great review and couldn’t be happier. I just wanted to add one thing about the TC Electronic Flashback From what you wrote, I was not sure if you were aware that It can actually be switched to buffered bypass.

That makes it even more recommendable in my opinion because not only does the “spillover thing” work, it is also quite useful if you have the delay last in chain before the amp. Thanks again and have a great day!

Hi Bjorn, Thanks for the update to the delay page and all your efforts for educating us. I’m still saving money for a better delay unit. I have DD-20 and I’m gonna keep it for now. I’ve been thinking of Nova Delay for more than a year now after finding it was your pick in your website. I noticed you kept the pick for Flashback put removed the pick from Nova Delay and added the pick to Boonar.

I can’t afford Boonar but if Flashback is as good sound quality as Nova Delay and offers as much versatility and even more extra stuff too, and if its 2290 mode has the same functionality and versatility of Nov Delay (I’m really fond of the idea of dynamic delay) then I can go for that one instead of Nova Delay. Just I thought I check because I’m ok to budget a few 10 dollars more for Nova Delay instead of Flashback delay if there is a merit for buying Nova Delay for better tone (more analog sounding), or more functionality or versatility. I appreciate if you let me know.

Thanks a lot. Or the other approach could be I don’t sell my Boss DD-20 and just add a vintage analog flavour to it, either with EHX Deluxe Memory Man or TC Alter Ego V2; and if this approach is a good one, do you think I get enough mojo from TC Alter Ego V2 plus the flexibility of other possibilities (Echorec, etc) or Deluxe Memory Man is going to offer modulation control and true analog tone therefore being more superior for vintage analog flavour. If TC Alter Ego V2 got the right amount of modulation for Deluxe Memory Man setting suitable for DG kind of tone, plus offers a useful DG tone Echorec setting, etc. I think it could be more advantage but as long as it is analog sounding. Price wise I can get used ones of either for the same price so the comparison is about authenticity and flexibility.

I really appreciate your comment. I have most of the Moogerfooger pedals (including the MF-104M) that get used on my studio board. An important issue with these pedals is their physical size and weight. Even when I’m not dealing with stage-related issues, I have to go through the hassle of swapping one or two other pedals out off my board when I want to include one of the less-used pedals in a chain. Why go through the hassle? Their sonic quality combined with the degree of control over parameters is possibly unmatched by any other units. – Bob Moog was into sound synthesis not necessarily guitar sounds.

Most of the gear produced by the company through the years was developed for keyboard use, though adaptation to other insturments isn’t difficult. If you’re looking for a classic analog delay pedal, the MF-104M is nearly impossible to beat. If I were interested more in emulating David Gilmour’s sound, I’d look elsewhere; especially with the price of the Moog delay being as high as it is. – The next piece of gear on my wish list is the Source Audio Nemesis delay. That seems to have a top quality analog delay emulation, as well as a huge variety of digital options. Hi Bjorn, first of all, thank you for sharing all this information, it’s very helpful. I have a question for you or anyone: when i play with lots of delay like the Time or Echoes solo i hear high pitch repetitions from the attack of the pick I guess, if i low the level it seems to disappear but the “chaotic” echo that I look is lost too.

I google this (badly i guess) and i find very poor info, I don´t know if is the nature of the delays pedals or is present in only the cheap ones (i have a Mooer Reecho). Thank you again and sorry my english. The chain is guitar >The Black Secret >Mooer Reecho >Amp. I have a ibanez amp with transistors, not very good i guess, i use the clean channel and a moderate/high volume for a house, play too low is a bit boring. By the way i saw a video of yours, the review of the boonar and i hear the same things (the echo of the attack) when you go up in the fretboard in the time solo cover, i think that is the way that it should sound and is not a problem, i mix the repeats too loud (100% xD) I’ll try lowering and get use to it.

Thank you and sorry for the rookie question. Thanks for your kind words! I rarely use loopers myself but yes, David’s often using two delays at once. This is part for creating a reverb-like tail to his tone – he is not using reverb on stage – and also for recreating the multiple head repeats he got from his old Binson echo unit.

You can combine different time signatures and mix the level individually, but try setting up one for a slap-back around 100-120ms and one for about 750ms. Experiment with the level of these and find a balance than work.

You will get sort of a double track effect and that long tail at once. Much as I like my Moogerfooger Delay, the analog bucket brigade technology places it in a specific genre of delay effects. The less expensive, smaller Minifooger delay lacks some of the bells and whistles of its bigger sibling, but in a blind audio test for a straight delay function it’s nearly impossible to tell the two apart. – Two weeks ago I came close to adding a Fulltone Tube Tape Delay to my studio pedal board. The tube stage on that impressed me as much as the genuine tape echo effect.

There’s an entirely different quality that creates from my Moog Delay. I may very well wind up adding this at some point in the future in order to add to the creative possibilities I have available when I want something different. – Instead of the delay I opted for an Effectrode Blackbird preamp since the time was ripe to add some tube stages to my solid state setup. Camtasia Studio 8 Keygen Download.

I will be giving both of Catalinbread’s tape echo units a trial using the preamp to drive them. It’ll be fun finding out how close the EchoRec and the Belle Epoch will come to the actual tube Binson and EchoPlex units they recreate. – For anyone looking to add a single economical delay unit to their rig, take a look at the Source Audio Nemesis delay. With a street price of $300 it’s somewhat pricey; but given the variety of possibilities, it is very economical. It has many different emulations available, and I’d have no problem using the Nemesis analog engine on a gigging board to replace of my Moog Delay.

Hi Bjorn, I’ve tried many different delays (in the following chronological order: DD7, MXR Carbon Copy, TC Nova Delay, Flashback) and I completely agree with your comments. I’ve just read this thread and if only I had seen it before I would have made savings! I’m more than happy with the TC delays. Quick question, and again I’m fully in line with the MXR CC being too dark: have you been able to try out the new version of the MWR Carbon Copy Bright? It really looks to be a nice improvement to the tone. Cheers, (and really sorry to what happened to you Epi) Renaud (France).

I’ve skipped over a lot of the comments, including all the ones for 2015. I like the tips and the background info is great for players to place all of this in context. I’m no great musician and my involvement with pedals has been extremely spotty. My first pedal was a new Maestro Stage Phaser when it was first released, and I paired that with a an MXR Stereo Chorus when those were released.

These eventually came up missing after a move to the West Coast. Instead of replacing them I moved to rack effects and stayed with those for a long, long time. – This past summer I got interested in messing with pedals again. It amazes me how many good ones have been developed during the period when I wasn’t paying attention to developments in that arena.

I’m doing acoustic stuff these days and use a Pendulum SPS-1 preamp. I’ve added on a dbx compressor and a Rane graphic EQ to the front end that were left over from an old studio I dismantled years ago. It took a while to figure out how to splice some pedals in after the EQ to good effect, but the results are rewarding.

I like subtle to enhance the guitar’s tone when I don’t bother setting up a mic for the instrument. – With all that out of the way, I’ve come to this: Moog Music’s Moofooger MF-104M is an amazing tool that sparkles and shines above everything else I’m aware of. It started with a used MF-108M Cluster Flux chorus pedal. I liked it so much I added the MF 103 Phaser pedal to recreate the original 2 pedal rig I had back in the 1970’s. With those two pedals I can float a tone in the background of my acoustic playing through a stereo rig that you don’t notice until you go looking for it. But when you do look it’s definitely there.

When I’m alone and I want to have fun tweaking things out, those 2 pedals push the envelope as far as I’d ever want to go with them. – Moog’s MF 104M Analog Delay pedal is currently out of production because Moog ran out of the rare bucket brigade chips used in the design. The price has jumped a whole big bunch; $679.99 list price, current scalper’s rate is $1,200.00 on e-bay, and these are the only ones available. I stumbled upon one listed late one night on e-bay for less than $1k and scarfed it up before anyone else had a chance at it.

– Like I said, it’s an amazing device. It outshines my MF chorus and Phaser pedals that I like so much, IMO. They’re all big and a bit clunky looking; but the build quality, the impeccable sound, and the multiple routing possibilities, and the degree of control I have over what escapes from the outputs is something else. – Sorry for sounding like a paid advertisement for the company.

I’m just a Newbie who’s discovered more than I ever expected to find with these analog devices. These certainly aren’t for everyone.

I don’t think I’d want to take these pedals out touring with me. For my home studio, of for going into any studio anywhere in the country, my MF 104M goes with me in my carry on luggage. For anyone reading this who likes analog delay, when Moog puts these back into production, do yourself a favor and give one a try. Ha ha, well, it’s all down to taste isn’t it? But, I agree that analog delay – or if you’re lucky enough to own an original tape machine – do sound more organic and musical. The technology has come a long way the last decade or so and analog doesn’t mean that you have to spend all your savings anymore.

I’m still using my old Boss DD2 though. It’s always been my main delay unit but to me it sounds much warmer and more dynamic than most digital units that I’ve tried. The newer Boss DDs sound sterile and flat. Great Echosex review! I really love that pedal but for my pocket is overprized!

I want to buy a Echo pedal and I’m towards the calibread echorec pedal. Normaly I play a strat with ssl5 bridge and 69’s tro a hiwatt t20 but also play with my guitar chain ( mxr buffer, mxr dyna comp, small stone, bass big muff, triangle buff, sl drive, BD2, blues mood, electlady, ensemble king, nova delay, RT20) tro a Carl Martin Rock Bug wish is a amp speaker simulator wish you can plug a headphones and tro a mixer. I used it with headphones. What is your opinion about the Echorec? Where should I put it in the guitar chain?

And do you know a better alternative in a budget range? Cheers, Joao Bicudo. There have been a few mentions in this thread about Catalinbread’s bad customer service. I really have to comment on that. Starting with having a 7 year warranty (which is about 7 times that of any of their competition), I have had nothing but stellar service from them.

Whether asking a random question about an upcoming pedal or having an issue with one I own (which has turned out to be misperception on my part, not a faulty pedal), they have always responded politely within a day, sometimes within an hour. Hell, Mike from there even had me call him at home on a day off to talk for 20 minutes about setting up a pedal for my rig. Hi Bjorn, First time wandering around on this site and I have to say I’m impressed! Lots of great info and shopping tips. I’m putting together a new pedalboard and I recently treated myself to the Keeley Magnetic Echo as a birthday gift to myself, and I have to say, I’m very impressed. It’s quickly become my favorite pedal, and does a nice job with the warm tape-type delay tones.

Reminds me of a somewhat superior version of the Carbon Copy. Great quality and not terribly expensive for a handwired boutique pedal- Might be worth a look if you ever get around to it.

Have you ever tried Carl Martin’s Delayla or Delayla XL? They’re both 100% Analog Tape Echo simulations. The do a frightening good job. All hand wired in Denmark.

They both can work as typical delays, which have an Echoplex quality, or you can hit the “Tap” as its called on the standard Delayla, or the “Slapback” as its referred to on the XL, which engages a second head, to get Watkins Copicat vibes going. The XL has a Tap Tempo, not to be confused with the “Tap” on the standard model that works well. The unit doubles as a studio effect.

Worth a look! Bjorn, Been listening to Airbag quite a bit since my last post a few months ago. My cousin and I are flying to Colorado from Dallas to catch Steven Wilson’s show and then the next night Brit Floyd at Red Rocks.

We both agree that the only thing missing is your show in the middle! Everyone I have played your music for loves it!!! Anyway, I just wanted to get your opinion on the Tc Nova System.

I picked one up a few months ago and have pretty much done away with all the other effects on my board. I still use my pedals for OD and distortion, but I find the effects on the Nova to be awesome. I find the delays to be fantastic. The chorus and flanger are pretty solid as well. Lastly, I find the compressed to be very helpful.

It has a setting called sustain and it does exactly that without changing my tone at all. It is very easy to adjust the volume on and it adds some great sustain. My band plays another brick pt. 2 and I am lead. I am finally able to nail the tone on the solo.the rotary speaker I was given as a gift from my friend was a huge help as well. Your site has been an amazing help in my tone quest and I wanted to personally recommend the TC Nova System to anyone, who wants a wide variety of effects, that in my opinion are of very high quality. The Analog OD and Distortion aren not bad on it at all either.

One could easily use this as a stand along unit if need be. It has definitely made a big impression on me. Chad from Dallas. The Boss DD-2 and DD-3 should be exactly the same pedal.

The chip they used in the DD-2 drastically went down in price, so instead of cutting the cost of the DD-2 they reintroduced it at a lower price as the DD-3. Some revisions came about after that though.

It’s a great pedal for modding as it still has an analog compounder, so you can get the darker repeats. I have the BYOC version and its fantastic, I ended up switching it and the 2000’s RI AD-9 out for a Deluxe Memoryman, for more delay time ( I used around 325ms for my bands songs and they top out at around 300) and for the modulation. Analogman also has a ton of mods out for the DD-3 which are also worth looking into. I’ve listening some of The Wall songs from late 70’s and what an amazing sound that David’s had at the time! I saw your Run like hell version and you nail it! In all ways mate! By the way, do you know were i can find more bootlegs of the wall or animals era?

I just bought a TC Nova delay and what a fantastic unit! Great sounds! Can you share your setup and especily the delay settings or settings that can work with the Nova Delay.!?

Keep up with the good work, your site is very usefull! Do you have more reviews in mind? It’s allways a pleasure to see you playing mate. Cheers, Joao bicudo.

Hi Bjorn, I was reading in the Kit Rae page about the parallel delay setup used by Gilmour, sending separate 100% wet and dry signals to a blender or mixer. It’s not that hard to achieve this but, Do you thing that it worth the effort to try to set that setup? I also read that David uses two delays in parallel (full wet signals) I guess one in the pedalboard and the mxr he keeps in the rack, with diferent times to make the sound bigger. Any tips to set the times for this dual delay setup?

You mean the Sound on Sound setup or his delay tones in general?. I haven’t experimented that much to replicate David’s layered delay settings but I often use a variation for my own tones and stage setup simply by combining two different delay pedals.

For solos or textures, I often combine an analog delay, with dark reverb-like repeats set for 300ms and a digital delay as the main unit with pristine and clean sounding repeats set to about 700ms. This is similar to what David does, or at least did on the 80s and 90s and it creates a lush tone, while still begging focused as opposed to using reverb, which often makes heavier tones sound muddy. Bjorn, a great analog delay that warrants a strong mention on this site is the Maxon AD999 analog delay.

The AD999 is loaded with eight custom Bucket Brigade IC’s for 900 milliseconds of warm, organic analog tone. These BBD’s are clocked extremely low to achieve the longest delay time possible, creating a HUGE delay tone that recalls early 70’s Pink Floyd with stunning accuracy. Also- unlike digital simulators like Strymon, the Maxon AD 999 is true bypass and runs on 9 volts. The tone is legendary and almost anyone who has heard it will agree that there is little else in the market which compares with the stunning warmth of the pedal. It would be awesome if you could put in a mention of it in the delay section. This is too special an analog delay to miss. The Community Gear Gallery looks very impressive.

I would be ashamed to post my stuff. All I have is a Variax 700 and Line 6 POD XT Live, which I bought used for $500 CDN. But with it, I can emulate Strats, Teles, Pauls and a whole lot more; plus a wide array of tube amps — HiWatt, Marshall. Vox, etc; and I can call up 100+ FX, including Binson Echorec, Uni-Vibe, Leslie 145, and on and on So if you’re on a low budget, or don’t have a lot of space you might want to check out Line 6.

Disclaimer: I don’t work for the company; I just want to share what I found. BTW Great site and great posts! Thanks for the superb ‘new’ buyers guide! And thanks for adding the DBM to the muff list:) have you personally had the opportunity to try the DBM yet?

There’s a huge reputation for Maxon AD 999 analog delay (with 900 ms delay) and unlike other companies this is an actual all analog, true bypass delay. Most consider this to be one of the greatest true analog delays in production today. Would you consider adding a mention of this pedal to your delay section please? Thank you Bjorn.

Your website just keeps getting better and better with time! Hello:), I recently bought a T-Rex Reptile 2 and I love their sound and tones I get with this but I have a little discomfort. I put my guitar directly connected to my fuzz face jhf1 and then the reptile 2..

When the reptile 2 is not activated fuzz tone is quite balanced but when I activate the reptile 2 is much brighter, I do not know if this is normal or abnormal the same thing it happens when I connect with my deluxe electric mistress (reissue 2000), when the mistress is not activated fuzz tone is one way and when active is quite bright but my biggest concern is that through this with the reptile 2, do not know if it is due to the type of bypass that has this pedal or maybe that I’m using a solid state amplifier. Manual of reptile 2 does not specify what type of bypass used but it seems that is true bypass his opinion will be of great help please:). Yeahactually I describe it as “Floyd-like”, as inthe whole Pink Floyd scene:) You’ll see. Hope you get so we can get a review. So i’m sure you don’t remember but my setup for delays isCaitlinbread Echoric, Jams Delay Llama, into Dr. Scientist Reverbthen Trex Replica into stereo ampsEither Fender blues jr and Swart Atomic Space Tone or Bassman.

Talk about any colour you like.:) Thanks for all the tips! I like the Analog flavor best as you can see.

I need to get my gear picture up on your page. I had Helweg make me a custom board.

I’ve been following your facebook pages and saw you that you might be divulging some info about the Echoric. I can’t wait and i’m glad you love it.

I bought it sight unseen and it’s just my favorite. Always kind of wanted to send you out mine so you could reviewbut not really;) In a couple days i’ll get my picture upmaybe we can discuss my board!!

Keep it legendary Bjorn! Hi Bjorn,thanks for the sharing your experience with us.this is awesome:) I like your music and all of your stuffs,congrats!! I have a question for you I watched your the blue jamming you used tc electronic flashback.Also I have one and Can you give me your all settings for this pedal on this Jam? God bless you! [Thanks for your kind words! I used the 2290 mode with the delay time at about 1 o’clock for aprox 750ms, the feedback at 12:00 and the level at 11:00. You need to adjust these settings to match your guitar and amp.

Hadn’t thought about the Timeline. Which would you take between the Eventide and the Strymon? Both seem good (and they’d better for the price) but I’m leaning towards the Eventide because I saw that you can download the presets that the guitarist from Roger Water’s “The Wall” created and they sound pretty close to Gilmour’s original tones. The Eventide also seems a little more versatile to me. Thanks, Matt [I haven’t explored the Timeline enough to really give a good comment on it but I think both units are great and it depends on what features you need.

Both are capable of replicating classic delays and also more modern studio quality stuff. Some small note to the sound of T-Rex Replica: I have a try at some delays (TC flashback, Boss DD-20 and others) but the problem was, that first echo and sometimes also second one were somehow too sharp at the beginning of the sound. Very striking attack of echoes embarrassed me. It wasn´t possible to reach or at least to approach lets say to natural sound of intro in Coming back to life.

Now with T-rex Replica this is possible. It has natural sound with very soft echoes attacks. The sound is very “musical”, it´s not a “digital chemistry”.

Thanks for this web by the way. [Cheers, Oscar:) – Bjorn].

Going between three pedals for Gilmour tones: Eventide TimeFactor, Line 6 DL4, and one of the new Korg SDD-3000. Have you tried the Korg yet? How do the others stack up? Is there one I haven’t listed that you think is better? Thanks, Matt [I haven’t tried the Korg so I can’t tell.

Based on the reviews I’ve seen and heard it seems like a great unity though. The Line 6 has some really nice and classic tones but the downside is that it’s noisy and drains your signal.

The Eventide is hard to beat. You might also want to check out the Strymon Timeline. Tom – i have a Delaylab and it is fantastic – great sound, tons of delay options, expression pedal out, programmable, stereo ins and outs. Also acts as a looper. Also an honourable mention should go to the Multiplex self build from 1776 effects – just a PCB but if you are competent with a soldering iron worth a go. Recreates Echoplex, Binson and RE-201 delays, by having 2 separate emulated tape heads.

EP-1 just uses one of them for standard tape delay Binson mode uses them in a chain but with the output in a feedback loop with the 2nd head RE-201 send the input to both in parallel but the feedback the output of both into the 2nd head only Lots of rhythmical fun! I don’t get the hype with the T Rex Replica. It’s definetely a Hi Fi digital delay with a hi cut switch, many digital delays do that; it has nothing to do with a proper analog delay. Mind you, I love digital delays, but the Replica is not an “analog voiced” delay by any means. Funny how people use the term ‘warm’ to mean almost opposite things. [Depends on what you mean by analog voiced.

It’s certainly not a tape delay nor analog in the sense of the Carbon Copy or similar. The Replica is very similar to the Memory Man, which I think pretty much set the standard for analog delay pedals. It’s also similar to the Boss DD2, which was digital but with an analog flavour. I think the Replica is one of the best delays out there but if you’re looking for something with a darker tone and more dirt and flutter then look elsewhere. Hey my friend, do you have any experience with the Vox Delaylab? Seems to be a DL4 copy. I almost bought a Flashback but im scared about reliability (acording to the net, footswitches on these pedals fail quickly, but to the best of my knowledge, it looks like you cant repair it.) I think I’ll go with the DL4, but if the Vox is just a cheaper (but good cuality) DL4, that would be great.

Thanks for everything. Tom [I haven’t tried the Vox so I can’t really tell. The DL4 has some really nice sounds but it’s noisy as hell and it sucks your tone. I’ve never had any issues with TC pedals.

They’re sturdy and the Flashback, in all its variations, is hard to beat. Hi Bjorn, this is the first time I have posted a comment on this fantastic and amazingly comprehensive website of yours. I own an original RE-201, which is a bit like my pride and joy, and I regularly check out forums for advice on maintenance and stuff.

Anyway, one thing that comes up on a regular basis is the claim that the Floyd would have used an RE-201. Now, I’m a long-time Floyd fan and never I have seen an RE-201 on any live pic – and I’ve seen quite a few over the years. Have you ever heard anything about that yourself or do you happen to know whether they might have used any such units either live or in the studio at some stage?

Thanks again for all your great work and illuminating insights. (By the way, if I just may offer a comment on the Boss RE-20 that is purely personnal: this is not at all meant as a derogatory remark about that unit, I think it’s a good delay pedal in its own right, but after having tried one myself, I have come to the conclusion that it just does not live up to the original RE-201, not even by a long stretch of the imagination. In that respect, Death by Audio’s Echodream 2 is a lot more convincing and does a far better job when it comes to recreating the sound and feel of the RE-201.) [Thanks for the tip. I’ll check out the EchoDream:) As far as I know, none of the Floyds has used a Space Echo on their instruments. They all used the Binson. However, they did use it for echo on vocals during the tours in the 70s.

It was placed at the front house mixer. Hey Bjorn, while on the rotary subject with Brad, I thought of a question I’ve had for some time, and wanted your answer.

I’m finally doing my V2 clip of the “Dry solo” from Dogs, and have always thought I heard a mild modulation. On the studio version, is David using the Hiwatt/Doppola combination, with the rotatating speaker way back in the mix? It’s never sounded totally dry to me. Thanks buddy, Keith [He used a Hiwatt+Yamaha RA200 combo for the whole album.

The Yamaha is not that evident as it is on the fast solos but it’s definitely there. It also sounds like they used either a very short delay or manually created a doubling effect by duplicating the tracks and slowing down one of them.

I’ve been changing my gear, so I still haven’t bought the Belle Epoch (I hope that thay comes soon), but, for the moment I think I need a cheap delay. Which one would you recomend if it was just temporary ’til the Belle Epoch is mine? I dont need many features like tap tempo, just a good sounding delay, from the Saucerful of Secrets-Wish You Were Here era(by the way, do you prefer delays with tap tempo or you dont feel the need?) Thank you very much for your time, your help and your advices are always great. I hope everything is going well for you. [I don’t think you can get a more versatile delay that the TC Flashback considering the price. Great tones and you’ll be able to cover all of David’s sounds.

The Tone Print feature makes it even more versatile. Hey Bjorn, sorry to be off subject but I need to know your opinion on the motion sound pro 3. I’ve heard great things about them and I have a chance to get one. Seems to be a good deal if you used it at small venues. I plan on blending it with my blues jr as David does.

Any info you have would be great! [I haven’t tried it my self so I can’t really comment on it. Based on the reviews I’ve seen I guess you need to feed it to an amp to get any proper volume from it but it might just work nicely alone in smaller venues.

Hi again Bjorn, Sorry for another question but I was wondering would I be better off getting a Boss DD-2 for digital delay and an analog delay pedal or just an Eventide Timefactor for both? Which sounds better to your ears? And which delay would you recommend for an analog sound? [Both the Nova and Eventide are great. They’ll provide all the tones you need and allows you to back up presets. I prefer single pedals basically because I’ve always preferred simple pedals.

Tonewise you could go either way. Hi Bjorn, I would like a delay pedal but I’m poor so I’ll only be able to have one on my pedalboard. If you could only use one delay pedal for your Gilmour tone what would it be?

In terms of versatility of being able to cover most Gilmour era’s reasonably well and obviously producing the best sound etc. I’ve been looking at the Boss DD-2, T-Rex Replica, Deluxe Memory Man/Boy reissues and the Strymon El Capistan, but if you have any suggestions outside of these pedals you are more than welcome to let me know. David [Of the ones you’ve mentioned I’d say that the Replica is the most versatile.

It covers the old analog tones incredibly well and it also does a convincing modern digital flavour. You might also want to check out a multi unit to be able to cover more tones and also store different presets.

The Boss DD20, TC Nova and TC Flashback are great alternatives. Hi Bjorn, I’m looking for a delay pedal and I need your advice please.

I’m tossing up between the Boss DD-2 (if I can find one) and the T-Rex Replica. I know you use both of them so they must be great, however I only afford to get one of them. I’ve heard a comparison between them and they both sounded great but the T-Rex just sounded a little bit warmer, clearer and brighter, truly an incredible delay unit.

However I’m looking for that Comfortably Numb tone (who isn’t), and for that you recommend the DD-2 as it’s digital instead of analog. Despite the T-Rex being analog is there any other reason it wouldn’t be suitable to achieve that tone (eg.

Doesn’t react well with muffs)? Would it make a noticeable different if I used it instead of a DD-2 for Comortably Numb tone?

[The Replica has a dark, mellow analog flavour, while the DD2 is distinctly brighter and more pristine sounding. Still, compared to the newer Boss DDs, I think the DD2 sound more natural and not nearly as sterile. Both works well for Comfortably Numb.

How a delay eventually sound depends on your amp, the pickups and what pedals you use with it. If you have to choose only one I’d go with the Replica.

It can do both the old echo stuff and a convincing digital tone. Hi Bjorn, I have a Roland Space Echo RE-201 (Which used to sound godly but now needs some tlc and tape) but I also have a Reel Echo by DanaElectro, it has a range of 1500 ms.

A Tape Warble Switch, and a Sound on Sound button (which is very limited to like maybe 2 seconds if your lucky) But over the years I have used this Reel Echo pedal for Gilmours Floydian sounds, it is a real nice little green box the size of those line 6 echo units, and has a slider like the EchoPlex,but cancels out before launching the UFO lol. My old Yamaha DDL launched the UFO real well. I have been thinking about the Catalainbread Echorec, but I think you mentioned one that pretty well did the same.

What about looping or sound on sound, any ideas??? I love The Obscured By Clouds album so much and think that some of the playing on that album is just so underrated like Gilmours shredding on The Gold Its In The or the handful of searing notes in MudMen, or the gorgeous slide playing throughout the album.

And The Title Track Number is one of the heaviest cuts ever (but didn’t enjoy Wrights noodling on the intro to the live versions, sometimes less is better. ) Thank You so much for your work Bjorn,and I hope to hear your new solo album and wish you all the best. Hey when Gilmour is playing the slide in live at Pompei,the intro, how is he getting that clarity of the slide playing?is it due to the extreme high volume he’s playing at, cause its clean right, hard to re create without boosting otherwise.

Any tips or is he using something??? Just so I can do the same, without the 100 watt Hi Watt Amp Cranked lol [Hi Ryan! I think the “secret” to David’s tone during the early 70s were simplicity. What you hear on Obscured and Pompeii is pretty much just his Strat into the incredibly loud Hiwatts.

The Binson echo was a huge part of his tone, creating a lush reverb-like echo. The Catalinbread does a very good emulation.

He also used a Colorsound Powerboost for overdrive and fuzz. These pedals were transparent and designed to both enhance and drive the large tube amps.. Hi Bjorn, Wonderful website, tons of good vibes and inspiration! I’d just like to know your opinion about the Flashback X4 vs the new Alter ego X4 by Tc electronic?

I’m about to order, and can”t decide. They seem very close, there’s just more options with the alter ego X4, which allows 2 Echorec delays + one Echoplex setting But maybe they”re not faithfull to the original toneslike in alter ego version 1 I’m a bit lost because I don’t know what the Flashback X4 “tape” and “analog” settings refer to Echoplex? EH Memory Man?

Binson Echorec And, important for gilmour tones: Flashback X4 has “dry 2290″ and “modulated 2290″ Alter ego X4 seems to have only “modulated 2290″ Thanks for your help!!!! Regards, Sylvain [The Alter Ego is aimed towards vintage echo units and they’ve tried to capture the essence of their tones.

Personally I don’t they’ve quite managed that. There are some really nice tone on it but they’re mostly very modulated and the modulation is very chorusy, which doesn’t sound that authentic. It should be less and more vibrato like.

Anyway, the Flashback has many of the same tones but the dry 2290 is what makes the big difference. This is the same pristine delays from the 80s rack version.

Both sound great and will give you lots of cool stuff to play around with but for versatility I’d go for the Flashback. Sorry I made that mistake. When in the Sam Ash the day before I wrote that post, the Catalunvread, and Earthquaker pedals are all mixed up on the same shelf. I certainly didn’t vmean to hurt your feelings, and since I’m sure you’ve never made a mistake, I’ll clarify. The EARTHQUAKER DEVICES “THE DEPTHS” SUCKS. I also think that Catalinbread has horrible customer service, and a snotty attitude,( do you work for them?).

I have the Echorec, I like it, but it’s not the best Gilmour delay out there. I find it really silly for you to rudely point out a 4 month old mistake, which you could have done without being rude, and getting personal. But, hat’s cool, I’m 52 years old, and can take the unnecessary criticism with my big boy pants on. Perhaps you could have pointed out my mind stake in a friendly way. I don’t believe I’ve insulted anyone on this site, and I’ve seen some pretty ignorant statements worthy of addressing, but like I said, no worries, I now stand corrected, and don’t mind anything other than the personal attack for a simple mistake.

I do not, “talk crap”, and Keith is spelled wrong in your post. I before E doesn’t count in proper nouns! Peace, Keith.

Hey Bjorn, So, instead of getting a delay with multiple voicings, I was thinking of getting two seperate pedals for each type i want. I already know I would get the catalinbread echorec for tape/vintage tones, but Iam having a hard time finding a dedicated digital delay for Davids more recent/2290 tones. I would prefer a unit that just does those kind of tones, rather than a unit that just has those tones possible. Like how the catalinbread echorec just cover the binson tonesAny suggestions would be much appreciated. Thanks for all you do on this wonderfull site, along with your work with Airbag, and your solo work. Its all just great.

Its good to hear a modern musician carrying on that out of this world PF type of music, but in there own way entirley. It gives me hope for the future of music, and inspires me to see that it can be done a succesfull venture. [Thanks a lot for your kind words, Joshj! Much appreciated:) How about the TC Flashback? It has lots of options but the 2290 is there and it sounds great!

There’s also the TonePrint feature, which allows you to pretty much tailor any tone you want. Haha, dont worry, its just like for the kind of sounds you prefer to make with delay. Have you ever felt the need of tap tempo for gigs?

Thats what makes me want the Re20, but I really like the Belle. I was looking in your gear page, but I do not remember if the DD2 has tap tempo mm and the other delay, I dont remember, was a T rex? Im really wanting the BE, a lot more than the RE (dont know why really, but its really calling me) Also the BE is fairly cheaper than the RE over here. Thanks for the help Bjorn, hope everything ia going fine. Now Im just between the Boss RE20 and the Belle Epoch (had no idea that the preamp could be adjusted in the Belle Epoch) Which one would you choose for David’s tones?

Im leaning toward the Belle Epoch (now I remember, thank you so much for that recommendation, the pedal seems to be so great Bjorn.) I like Radiohead, and I know they’re users of the Roland Space Echo, but from what I’ve heard in their songs, it’s not that much for me like the Belle Epoch seems to be. (do you like Radiohead, btw?) Cheers! [Hmmm a hard choice. Both are great.

You know, between the two I’d actually go for the RE20. It has some very nice features and it sounds awesome. But, don’t hold me responsible for any choice you make:) – Bjorn]. Mmm maybe you’re right and I’d like the Echorec alot more.. I was meditating about the Belle Epoch. And, I could be wrong, but, in a gig, would the Belle (being more focused than the Echorec) be a better choice for live use? My thinking is: Echorec = more reverb-ey delay; Echorec + natural reverb from a live gig = not so clear repeats As the Belle Epoch is less reverb-ey maybe, It’ll sound smoother in gigs, rather than lost Still, I’m not sure yet about either haha, wish I could buy both.

Please tell me what you think On a sidenote, is it me or the Belle is more rock oriented? Thank you very much Bjorn, sorry for these looong questions. [I haven’t tried them on stage with a band so I can’t really tell for sure but I’m guess the Echorec would blend much more, while the Belle would have more pristine repeats and maybe stand out more. First a have to thank you for all your work! There is no better source in the world (maybe Mr.

Gilmour himself) and there’s more than one padal on my board, that was recommended at your website. My main Delay-Unit is a TC-Electronic Flashback, sometimes i use a Line6 M5 for settings wich require an exact delay time, i. “Run like hell”.

Today my new Delay arrived. It it called “Yodelmaster” from a German Company named “Servus! Pedals” and a great deal for all those who are looking for a analog delay/echo. There are two modes, delay and echo, switchabel modulation (rate and depth can be adjusted by two pots).

Nothing special so far, but You can connect an expression pedal to adjust the repeats by foot, you can send only the repeats to a second amp AND there is a loop, so the repeats could be treated with other effects like modulation, a second delay and so on The pedal is offered for 179 € plus shipping. It sounds very “tape’ish” and warm. [Thanks for your kind words and for the tip! I’ll check it out:) – Bjorn]. Oh those guys must be kidding:) I mean, just a fuzz? Haha Well, now I’m thinking the Echorec would be more “me”, but the Belle Epoch sounds so great too. This is really hard Maybe im wrong, but now im thinking the echorec is more echo-ey than the Belle as it sounds less focused.

Mmm, did you have problems with modulation in the Echorec or the Belle? Again, thanks for the help Bjorn (and for a good laugh) [Sounds to me that you might want the Echorec:) Hard to describe them but they do cover different tones and they’re also based on two very different sounding echo machines. I’ve been hearing demos of the echorec and the belle epoch.

Is it me or the Belle has way too much modulation? Maybe just the demo. Anyway, does it cover David’s tones as good as the echorec (as the echorec would be the obvious choice)? Does the Belle Epoch cover the Echorec tones? Would both be a “waste” for live use in your opinion?

Some guys say they would, as they would be hard to notice in a bar gig (thats what they say) Sorry for being repetitive, but i know both are really great pedals and Im not sure about which one get. Thank you, really, you’ve been such a help with random people’s gear Bjorn Thank you for all [Happy to help:) Some would say that all you need is a guitar, amp and fuzz and you’re good to go but we know better don’t we:) Seriously, whether or not the nuances in your tones will be heard depends on how you tweak your setup to match the venues and obviously how well the sound guy manages to translate that to the PA. The Belle won’t cover the Echorec as they’re two different pedals but you can use both to cover Dvaid’s tape echo sounds.

It just depends on what you prefer. The Echorec is much more spicy and all over the place while the Belle is a more focused sounding unit with a more noticeable modulation. One way to go is the TC Flashback. It has a couple of really nice pre-sets and the TonePrint feature allows you to pretty much get any tone you want.

Ahh, how quickly time changes all. I remember the time when the Carbon Copy, and Throbak overdrive boost were “THE” go to pedals, now hardly a word is spoken about either!

This boutique thing is getting out of hand,( speaking purely on the grounds of it becoming economy cally impossible to keep up!). I could sell a few, and get the new best thing, but I’m already 40 years advanced on what the greats used when I think they did their best work, so with a Carbon Copy, Echorec, and DD-20, and a Throbak, and Spark, I think I’m in a good place! But soon, someone will make the next ” Ultimate pedal”, and I’ll have that old Gassy feeling again! Peace, Love, and Alms for a poor old guitarist!!! Keith [I see your point, Keith. There’s always something new and tempting.

That just the way the system works:) Neither of the ones you’ve listed have lost their tone or appeal since they got out but part of the whole tone search thing is that we’re always looking for something new. Something that might get us closer to the tones we have in mind. It always depends on what tones you want. Personally I often find my self coming back to old favourites:) – Bjorn].

I just buy and test the TC Electronic Flashback Delay and i was a little disappointed, it changes the tone and it gets darker, muddier and with a bit of volume loss, even more when i play with distortion. It’s too bad this pedal with this features ends up falling drastically changing the tone of the guitar. I do not know if it happens with all models but it seems that the processed signal loses clarity. I’m disappointed and i still looking for a Delay with these features but without losing the signal and tone. In In this pedal category which pedal you can advise me? Congratulations for your excellent work. Regards from Portugal [That’s strange.

I haven’t experienced that with mine. The Nova would be the closest match. Bjorn, Dave Talkin here again. I thought that I would like to share what I am using for delay besides my rack mounted Korg SDD-3300 triple digital delay which has the most quiet and amazing effects ever.

More on this effect at a later date. For everyday I use my Boss DD-6 Digital Delay modified by Mike at Analogman Effects. I have the High End Cut Switch mod and it brings this pedal alive. It rolls off the bright top end and makes for a warmer analog type delay tone. Here is a description from Mike’s web site: The DD-6 was the latest pedal from Boss when I bought it and I always use the cut switch engaged, preferring it to the stock digital delay tone. I know there are many many digital and analog delays available but for my money this Boss does the trick.

I sold all my combo amps that had onboard reverb but I feel for the Pulse era Gimourish tone the delay is sufficient not requiring a separate reverb pedal, so you agree? Thanks as always for the most comprehensive Gimour site in the world and one I enjoy immensely.Dave [Thanks Dave! Been eyeing those AnalogMan modded DDs for a while might pick one up. Have you an opinion about the T-Rex Play Back delay? This is a limited run for Thomann 60th anniversary, very affordable analog-like delay. I listened comparisons with the T-Rex Replica and Reptile 2, and they seems quite similar for me (except for the flutter part of the Reptile, of course).

Moreover, as I’ve seen it’s possible to set the Play Back for a reverb-like effect, which can be convenient for other types of music I play, and save place on my future pedalboard (I plan to buy a Pedaltrain mini). Thanks in advance, Alexis [I haven’t tried it but it seems to be in the same line of the Replica and Reptile. Hi Bjorn, I’m on this site and E-bay hunting down more pedals and a better amp so often that I’m hardly playing the strat lol.

But I need to update my dd3 etc Learned that you can’t have enough pedals ha ha SO I was wondering? What would you recommend and why?( Already read this guide loads but it’s down to these three I hope) lol.

Should I get a DD2 or a TC Flashback or even though they arent customer friendly a catalinbread Echorec? Also I would appreciate if you could choosbetween a modern deluxe mistress, a elec lady or hold out for a vintage deluxe mistress?

And if I buy an american vintage deluxe can I change the plug easily enough to operate in british voltage? Many thanks Bjorn, love your site, always on here P.S. Any chance of fixing the big muff guide that wouldn’t work or is it a no go? Sorry for my late reply.

The Muff guide will be up sometime later this summer. I’m updating the content Of the three I think the Flashback is probably the best way to go and it’s a real bargain in terms of what you get.

Great tones and lots of different modes. It can easily cover the DD2 and do a fairly decent MemoryMan/Binson type of echo although there are better sounding and more dedicated analog delays out there.

The current Deluxe Mistress sound very dark and it has a nocieable mids bump, which I don’t think suits the pedal. Get a late 90s Deluxe or the ElecLady. Hi Bjorn, I congratulate you by the new additions on your site. I’m prejudicious with regard to the digital delays, therefore I use the analogical ones almost exclusively. I have been using the Boss DM-2 MN 3205 for a long time. Some time ago, I replaced it with a Retro-Sonic Analog Delay, a Boss DM-2 replica with longer delay time (800 ms). Have you tried one of them?

Kind regards and my best wishes for your new album. [Thank you, Emiliano! I’ve only tried the old Boss. Sounds really nice. So happy to hear about your solo album!!! Whats better a tc flashback or the new scaled down “repeater”?.

Also do you think the yellow pig muff sounds as good live as the red pig muff??? I know you helped design the yellow pig muff for recording just wondered head to head playing live how the yellow compares to the red tele / tuner/ yellow pig muff / buffalo powerboost / mooer elec lady / delay. Thanks so much for all your help with pickups and everything for my tele and rig will post pic and clip when guitar is complete. Now I want a strat too.

Thank you very much!!!!!! I hope you sell a million records!!!

James t [Thanks a lot for your kind words, James! The Repeater is a better pedal.

The sounds or tones are the same, but the Repeater has a lot more tone shaping options. The red Pig Hoof is in most cases better suited for live playing. The yellow is very mild and tamed, which is great for recording but depending on the amp, it can sound a bit thin when you crank it. The red is huge and fits most amps very well. I’ll throw in my two cents about Catalinbread, yes they make a couple of good pedals, but some absolute crap too,( see The Depths!), and have come up with tons of Crap since getting into bed with Sam Ash. I love to buy from Ash, at least the one that’s a coulple miles from my door, and I’ve become friends with the managers, and sales staff, but it is a huge corporation, and I’ll bet Catalinbread sold their souls in the deal.

It’s clear that they’ve started tossing a lot of mediocre pedals out since they got Ash to be their exclusive big box dealer. Sad, as their early stuff, as well as the Echorec, are great pedals, but they obviously care about money only, not equally about music, and customer loyalty.

I got the “We don’t have time for questions, call us if you want to buy the pedal”, which I did, for less than they sell it for, they made very little from me, and will never see another cent from me, even if they make “The Ultimate Pedal!”, mostly because of what they did to you Bjorn! Peace Y’all, Keith [Well, no bad feelings on my part. They’re a business and their foremost job is to make money.

The things is, hype and marketing is strong stuff. The fact that a company is much talked about, often seen in adds and reviews, does not necessarily mean that they make great stuff. A hype can be bigger that the product. Simple as that.

Bjorn, Hello again, Another question, about the TC flashback delay this time What is the right setting for the Binson echorec type of delay: TAPE or ANALOG? Same question for the EH Memory Man setting.

In their manual they say it’s the ANALOG. What is your experience about that? An dhave you tried the TC Flashback X4 Are the new options worth the cost? (new analog + modulation for exemple) Good evening Stefan [For the Binson it would be Tape.

It’s not exactly the same but more similar that analog. For the Mem Man, Analog would be the closest. Never tried the X4. Bjorn, you mention naming the presets on the Timefactor as a drawback, perhaps you meant that you can’t name them? Fact is that originally you couldn’t but since a couple of software updates ago you now can name your presets quite easily. A lot of the sounds have also been improved.

The drawback to me is that you cannot bank down (only up) without hooking up an external aux switch. I’m using MIDI so no drawbacks here 8) [OK, thanks for the info! I demoed an older unit so that might explain why. Thank you Bjorn for your patience with me and my questions!

I want to purchase a digital delay and was just trying to get [2] birds with one stone. What path do you use to accomplish your sound on sound effect? Thanks again, I do appreciate all of your time. If you ever need advise on plumbing/ heating issues maybe i can return the favor. [I’ll keep that in mind:) Thanks!

I’ve never really explored the SOS effect that much. I’ve set it up a couple of times, with a split into two amps, delay and volume pedal but it’s not an effect I use often.. Hi Bjorn, Thanks a lot for this great update of the gear guide. The T-Rex replica and Strymon El Capistan are two great delay pedal. However, I tend to find the Replica more natural and warm sounding with distortion. Did you notice that as well?

Take care [They behave a bit differently. The Replica has an overall smoother and warmer tone, which, I guess, works better with high gain pedals. The El Capistan behaves just like a tape machine. The more you drive it, the more dirt it will produce. To me, it sounds best with cleans and milder overdrives and fuzz. Hi Bjorn, Thanks for all your hard work! I have to share my experience with catlinbreads customer service.

I am an owner of an echorec, and was influenced to purchase the pedal based on a video of one of the catalinbreads designers demo-ing the pedal with a version of PF’s Time. Once i received the pedal I eagerly contacted them to seek some advice on settings for ball park floyd. Of coarse I was always going to experiment but just wanted some simple tips to get underway.

All I got back was ‘sorry, i personally dont like pink floyd so cant help you’. This followed on from an unanswered email regarding the manual. Really bad customer support, no effort made and as a result I simply wont buy any more of their pedals out of principle. Even tho it sounds pretty good Thanks again Bjorn, Nick [Hmmm Sorry to hear that. If that’s really your opinion, then don’t answer. It’s only a disrespect to your customer. Anyway, how can you sell and promote a Echorec without at least acknowledging Pink Floyd?

Catalinbread makes some amazing stuff and I’m sure they get a lot of mails and requests but either you don’t answer at all or you take your customers seriously. Luckily, most manufacturers recognizes the importance of keeping their customers close. Especially considering how powerful social media is. They contacted me and wanted me to review the Echorec. I told them I’d be happy to but never heard from them again. I’ve been in contact with them several times and each time they reply that they don’t have the time to send one.

That’s OK but I don’t promote stuff just because someone asks me to. Especially when they don’t want to send a pedal, which I always keep since I don’t make any money from this. Perhaps they recogned I was so eager about this that I would buy the pedal and make a raving review but I’m in no position to do that and I don’t think it’s fair either. I don’t know I don’t loose sleep over this:) – Bjorn]. Nice listing Bjorn. I think it cover 90% of musicians needs in terms of delay pedals.

I deeply respect your choices, they would be mine too, but I really missed Strymon Timeline It’s probably the best or one of the best ones.:( [I don’t own all these pedals, so I have to ask friends to borrow theirs and I sit in my local store for hours testing a bunch of stuff for these reviews. Unfortunately, I can’t cover all in one update and some of the pedals aren’t even available here in Norway. The Timeline is definitely on my list for future tests:) – Bjorn]. Hi Bjorn, I’m sorry to have asked a stupid question! I was thinking since the nova has the spillover feature it could be used, like you have described, to create the “shine on” sound on sound effect since the pedal has the ability to continue a chord sound when switched off. I would be splitting the output signal before my pedal board and placing the nova alone into a second amp input. And, i’m sorry to be such a pain!

Thank you again, Keith M. [There are no stupid questions, Keith:) Happy to help. I don’t own one myself so I only got to test it briefly for the guide.

My experience was that the spillover lasted just enough to switch between patches, so that you’ll get a smooth overlap but not enough to loop. Perhaps someone can elaborate on this Cheers! Nice Bjorn, Thanks for getting out your delay page.

I have many of these great units. I would mention that the Line6 DL4 is known to have shotty fragile board mounted switches and that the upgrade to better switches is really a worthwhile investment. I love my El Capistan and I have a Time Factor that is a great all around delay.:) For my next board I am going to get the Strymon Timeline and another El Capistan most likely, I like my Catlinbread Echorec but since it lacks a tap Tempo I think the El Capistan will be a better option. Hi Bjorn, excellent article as always. I’ve had a TC Nova Delay for a few years now, it’s certainly one of the best pedals I own. The level of control it offers is excellent, you can easily experiment with some really unique wacky delays!

One of the most useful features (particularly at gigs) is to be able to switch between my presets with my foot without have to fumble with the small buttons in the dark, I’m sure this feature is on other pedals but I’ll still give TC some praise anyway! Hey Bjorn, WOW, you have been BUSY! Thank you for ALL of this work!

I’ve been debating between the TC Nova & Flashback for some time now and was wondering if the “spillover” feature on the nova would allow me to create sound on sound if i split the output signal, into a separate amp. Thank you again Keith M. I didn’t get the chance to go that deep with the pedal. Not quite sure what you mean but I don’t think it would work unless you split the signal with a long delay for the pads.

I actually prefer the Empress Tape Delay over the Strymon El Capitan. You can choose between either tap tempo with knobs as is or store up to three completely different presets into the tap switch. I use the latter and set one for a subtle, always on slap back, one for long tail echo around 300ms, and the last one for dotted repeats. The mix knob helps as does the ape age switch to give the sound as pristine a quality as you wish. It is also considerably cheaper than a Strymon. Also, just to mention it first, I expect someone will bring up the Catalinbread Echorec pedal as a standalone suggestion. [Thanks for you input, Shawn!

Welcome to the site! Delay settings depends so much on your tone and what sort of delay you need for that specific song or part. On the on the Flasback I’d use the 2290 mode for anything from the 80s and 90s and present and perhaps the analog, tape or modulation for the 70s stuff. For more accurate tones, you can also use the Tone Print and create your own.

David usually set his delays with 6-7 repeats and moderate level (about 3 o’clock) and the time depends on the song. The best way to dial in the time settings would be to have a reference, like Garageband where you can set up a delay with 300ms, 440ms, 700ms etc and match that on the pedal. You’ll find all of David’s signature time settings in the. Thanks for your kind words! David starded using the MXR Digital Delay System rack units in 1977 for the Animals tour.

It was a model #1, which was also used on the recording of his first solo album, The Wall album and tour and for the Final Cut sessions. It was also featured in the 1984 About Face live rig. At that point he’d also started using the #2 model, which has been featured on and off in his studio and live rig up until and including the recent tour. From what I understand, he first used the units to produce primarely the tap tempo sounds but in recent years, it seems that the unit is used to replicate some of the tones he got from his old Binson echo machines. I guess the closest match would perhaps be the Boss DD2 if you want a single pedal or, one of the TC Electronic units featuring the 2290 preset.

The internet is a powerful tool when you’re searching for new stuff, tips and help but it can also be quite the opposite of what you need and ruin all the fun. Limited space, grumpy neighbours and a patient family makes it hard to really crank that amp.

Still, we all want a big and fat tone that has all the qualities of playing on a loud stack. The debate surrounding this topic seems to be incredibly one sided. Either you’re pro buffers or you can’t stand them and insist on only using true bypass operated pedals.

But, as with most things in life, it’s not that black and white.