If you have additions or corrections please email them to me at sam@knutson.org You can help fight linkrot. Your corrections or additions will help to make this a. Aug 22, 2015. In short, we would like to put all our configuration under Hercules, preferably on a Macintosh under Yosemite. >>Our problem is: how to get our OSs (zVM 530 and zVM 420) from our machine and install them under Hercules? >>Thnks in advance for any help! >>C.Boitet & JC.Durand >Grenoble.

4.00 Development status Active Written in Website, Hercules is a computer allowing software written for computers (,, and ) and for mainframes (such as machines) to run on other types of computer hardware, notably on low-cost. Although there are other mainframe emulators performing a similar function, Hercules is significant in enabling private individuals to run mainframe computer software on their own personal computers. Hercules runs under multiple parent including,,,, and and is released under the license.

It is analogous to and in that it emulates instructions and select peripheral devices only. A vendor (or distributor) must still provide an operating system, and the user must install it. Hercules was notably the first mainframe emulator to incorporate 64-bit support, beating out commercial offerings. Roger Bowler, a mainframe systems programmer, started development of the Hercules emulator in 1999. Contents • • • • • • • • Design [ ] The emulator is written almost entirely in. Its developers ruled out using machine-specific code to avoid problems with portability even though such code could significantly improve performance.

There are two exceptions: Hercules uses hardware assists to provide inter-processor consistency when emulating multiple CPUs on SMP host systems, and Hercules uses assembler assists to convert between and big-endian data on platforms where the operating system provides such services and on / processors. Operating systems status [ ] Hercules is technically compatible with all IBM mainframe operating systems, even older versions which no longer run on newer mainframes. However, many mainframe operating systems require vendor licenses to run legally. Newer licensed operating systems, such as,,,,,,, and are technically compatible but cannot legally run on the Hercules emulator except in very limited circumstances [ ], and they must always be licensed from IBM.

IBM's control code, which enables, and also require licenses to run. Operating systems which may legally be run without license from IBM on Hercules include: • Older IBM operating systems including,,,,, and which are either or 'copyrighted software provided without charge.' • The operating system may be available for educational and demonstration purposes upon request to its copyright holder,. Some of MUSIC/SP's features, notably networking, require z/VM (and thus an IBM license). However, a complete demonstration version of MUSIC/SP, packaged with the alternative Sim390 mainframe emulator, is available. • The (MTS) version 6.0A has been tailored to run under Hercules.

• There is no known legal restriction to running operating systems and on the Hercules emulator. They run well on Hercules, and many Linux on System z developers do their work using Hercules. Several distributors provide 64-bit z/Architecture versions of Linux, and some also provide -compatible versions. Mainframe Linux distributions include,, GNU/Linux,, and. Sine Nomine Associates brought OpenSolaris to System z, relying on features provided by z/VM. Emulation of those specific z/VM features for OpenSolaris is included starting with Hercules Version 3.07.

• Certain unencumbered editors and utilities which can run on a mainframe without a parent operating system may be available to run on Hercules as well. Debian GNU/Linux running on Hercules Usage [ ] Hercules can be used as a development environment to verify that code is portable (across Linux processor architectures, for example), supports (SMP), and is 64-bit 'clean.' There is also a large community of current and former mainframe operators and programmers, as well as those with no prior experience, who use Hercules and the public domain IBM operating systems as a hobby and for learning purposes. Most of the skills acquired when exploring classic IBM mainframe operating system versions are still relevant when transitioning to licensed IBM machines running the latest versions. The nature of Hercules means that anyone can produce their own customized version of the emulator. For example, a group of developers independent of the Hercules project implemented a hybrid mainframe architecture which they dubbed 'S/380' using modifications to both Hercules and to freely available classic versions of MVS (and later VM and DOS/VS), enhancing the operating systems with some degree of 31-bit (and as of 2016, 64-bit) binary compatibility with later operating system versions.

Performance [ ]. This section needs additional citations for. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed. (February 2014) () It is difficult to determine exactly how Hercules emulation performance corresponds to real mainframe hardware, but the performance characteristics are understandably quite different. This is partially due to the difficulty of comparing real mainframe hardware to other PCs and servers as well as the lack of concrete, controlled performance comparisons. Performance comparisons are likely legally impossible for licensed IBM operating systems, and those operating systems are quite different from other operating systems, such as Linux.

Hercules expresses its processing performance in. Due to the age of the earlier System/360 and System/370 hardware, it is a relatively safe assumption that Hercules will outperform them when running on moderately powerful hardware, despite the considerable overhead of emulating a computer architecture in software.

However, newer, partially or fully configured System z machines outperform Hercules by a wide margin. A relatively fast dual processor X86 machine running Hercules is capable of sustaining about 50 to 60 MIPS for code that utilizes both processors in a realistic environment, with sustained rates rising to a reported 300 MIPS on leading-edge (early 2009) PC-class systems. Hercules can produce peaks of over 1200 MIPS when running in a tight loop, such as in a synthetic instruction benchmark or with other small, compute-intensive programs. Tom Lehmann, co-founder of TurboHercules, wrote.We can run a reasonably sized load (800 MIPS with our standard package).

If the machine in question is larger than that, we can scale to 1600 MIPS with our quad Nehalem based package, and we have been promised an 8 way Nehalem EX based machine early next year that should take us to the 3200 MIPS mark. Anything bigger than that is replicated by a collection of systems. Hercules generally outperforms from the mid-1990s, which have an advertised peak performance of around 29 MIPS. Compared to the more powerful but still entry-level IBM Multiprise 2000 and 3000 mainframes (also from the 1990s), Hercules on typical x86 hardware would be considered a mid-range server in performance terms. For every mainframe after the 9672 Generation 1, Hercules would generally be the lowest end system. For comparison, current high-end IBM systems can deliver over 52,000 MIPS per machine, and they have considerable I/O performance advantages. [ ] With the same number of emulated Sys Z processors, z/PDT is about 3 times faster than Hercules.

[ ] Note that there are other non-functional system attributes [ ] beyond performance [ ] which are typically relevant to mainframe operators. TurboHercules [ ] In 2009, Roger Bowler founded TurboHercules SAS, based in France, to commercialize the Hercules technology. In July, 2009, TurboHercules SAS asked IBM to license to its customers for use on systems sold by TurboHercules. IBM declined the company's request. In March, 2010, TurboHercules SAS filed, alleging that IBM infringed EU antitrust rules through its alleged of mainframe hardware to its mainframe operating system, and the EC opened a preliminary investigation. In November, 2010, TurboHercules announced that it had received an investment from Microsoft Corporation.

In September, 2011, EC regulators closed their investigation without action. See also [ ] • References [ ]. • '6.1',,: Hercules 390 • (alphabetical) (list), The Open Source Initiative. •, Frequently-Asked Questions, EU: Hercules 390 Version 3.

Michigan Terminal System Archive. Retrieved Jan 29, 2013. •, MVS/380 project, Sourceforge. • (Web log), Oracle •, Turbo Hercules, archived from on 12 October 2011. Radical Evolution By Joel Garreau Pdf File more.

•, European Commission, 26 July 2010. • (PDF), TurboHercules, 23 November 2010, archived from () on 10 March 2012. Softwarecrackworks Zip File Password Reset.

•, EC, last paragraph. External links [ ] • • at Curlie (based on ) • (Review on Tech-news.com) • (MVS version 3.8, VM/CMS release 6, DOS/VS release 34, TSS/370 version 3) • (includes Turnkey MVS CD image).

Z/VM on Hercules z/VM on Hercules 'herculessearch Jun 21, 2007 Can I run z/VM on top of a Hercules installation? Thanks in advance for your help. 9:16 pm Re: z/VM on Hercules Josef Sipek Jun 21, 2007 On Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 09:16:43PM -0000, herculessearch wrote: >Can I run z/VM on top of a Hercules installation? As far as I know, there's no _technical_ problem, and hercules can handle it just fine, but you need IBM to let you run z/VM - licensing issues.

Josef 'Jeff' Sipek. -- The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.

- George Bernard Shaw 9:31 pm RE: z/VM on Hercules William D Carroll Jun 22, 2007 Like was stated, Technically it will run but proper licensing is required. Problem is the installation, unless you install from TAPE or do a second level install using the DVDPRIME you can not install it The DVD/CD needs the SYSG console which is not supported by Hercules.

Doug From: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hercules-390@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Josef Sipek Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 5:32 PM To: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [hercules-390] z/VM on Hercules On Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 09:16:43PM -0000, herculessearch wrote: >Can I run z/VM on top of a Hercules installation? As far as I know, there's no _technical_ problem, and hercules can handle it just fine, but you need IBM to let you run z/VM - licensing issues. Josef 'Jeff' Sipek. -- The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.

Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. - George Bernard Shaw [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 1:35 am Re: z/VM on Hercules Johnny Luo Jun 22, 2007 William, I once successfully installed z/vm 5.3 Demopkg DVDs for Flex-es under hercules.

I didn't see anything specifal. Do I miss something here? On 6/22/07, William D Carroll wrote: >>Like was stated, Technically it will run but proper licensing is >required. >>Problem is the installation, unless you install from TAPE or do a second >level install using the DVDPRIME you can not install it >>The DVD/CD needs the SYSG console which is not supported by Hercules. >>Doug >>From: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com [mailto: >hercules-390@yahoogroups.com ] On >Behalf Of Josef Sipek >Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 5:32 PM >To: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [hercules-390] z/VM on Hercules >>On Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 09:16:43PM -0000, herculessearch wrote: >>Can I run z/VM on top of a Hercules installation? >>Yes and no.

As far as I know, there's no _technical_ problem, and hercules >can handle it just fine, but you need IBM to let you run z/VM - licensing >issues. >>Josef 'Jeff' Sipek. >>-- >The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one >persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress >depends on the unreasonable man. >- George Bernard Shaw >>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>>-- Best Regards, Johnny Luo [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 12:46 pm RE: z/VM on Hercules William D Carroll Jun 22, 2007 That's a Demo Pak + zVM 5.3 which only ESP site's have at this time (until june 29th anyways) Hercules lacks the SYSG support needed by zVM upto 5.2 (I can not speak for 5.3 except to say if it was designed for Flex-es they may have changed it to allow an install from a normal console) which is an OSA-ICC Connected Console Device.

From: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hercules-390@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Johnny Luo Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 8:46 AM To: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [hercules-390] z/VM on Hercules William, I once successfully installed z/vm 5.3 Demopkg DVDs for Flex-es under hercules. I didn't see anything specifal. Do I miss something here?

On 6/22/07, William D Carroll >wrote:. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 1:33 pm Re: z/VM on Hercules Rich Smrcina Jun 22, 2007 z/VM doesn't require SYSG support. Just a non-SNA 3270 console device, if it happens to be SYSG that's fine. William D Carroll wrote: >That's a Demo Pak + zVM 5.3 which only ESP site's have at this time (until >june 29th anyways) >>Hercules lacks the SYSG support needed by zVM upto 5.2 (I can not speak for >5.3 except to say if it was designed for Flex-es they may have changed it to >allow an install from a normal console) which is an OSA-ICC Connected >Console Device.

>>>>>>>>>>>>From: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hercules-390@yahoogroups.com] On >Behalf Of Johnny Luo >Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 8:46 AM >To: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [hercules-390] z/VM on Hercules >>>>William, >>I once successfully installed z/vm 5.3 Demopkg DVDs for Flex-es under >hercules. >>I didn't see anything specifal. Do I miss something here? >>On 6/22/07, William D Carroll >wrote: >>>>. >>>50957/stime=/nc1=4507179/nc2=3848642/nc3=4670553>>>>>>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>>>Community email addresses: >Post message: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com >Subscribe: hercules-390-subscribe@yahoogroups.com >Unsubscribe: hercules-390-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >List owner: hercules-390-owner@yahoogroups.com >>Files and archives at: >>>Get the latest version of Hercules from: >>Yahoo! Groups Links >>>>-- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Phone: 414-491-6001 Ans Service: 360-715-2467 rich.smrcina at vmassist.com Catch the WAVV!

WAVV 2008 - Chattanooga - April 18-22, 2008 1:46 pm RE: [hercules-390] z/VM on Hercules William D Carroll Jun 22, 2007 It requires SYSG support for the INSTALLATION of z/VM from DVD It does not require SYSG support once installed. From: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hercules-390@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 9:47 AM To: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [hercules-390] z/VM on Hercules z/VM doesn't require SYSG support.

Just a non-SNA 3270 console device, if it happens to be SYSG that's fine. William D Carroll wrote: >That's a Demo Pak + zVM 5.3 which only ESP site's have at this time (until >june 29th anyways) >>Hercules lacks the SYSG support needed by zVM upto 5.2 (I can not speak for >5.3 except to say if it was designed for Flex-es they may have changed it to >allow an install from a normal console) which is an OSA-ICC Connected >Console Device. >>>>>>>>>>>>From: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hercules-390@yahoogroups.com ] On >Behalf Of Johnny Luo >Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 8:46 AM >To: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [hercules-390] z/VM on Hercules >>>>William, >>I once successfully installed z/vm 5.3 Demopkg DVDs for Flex-es under >hercules. >>I didn't see anything specifal. Do I miss something here?

>>On 6/22/07, William D Carroll >>wrote: >>>>. >>>50957/stime=/nc1=4507179/nc2=3848642/nc3=4670553>>>>>>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>>>Community email addresses: >Post message: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com >Subscribe: hercules-390-subscribe@yahoogroups.com >Unsubscribe: hercules-390-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >List owner: hercules-390-owner@yahoogroups.com >>Files and archives at: >>>Get the latest version of Hercules from: >>Yahoo! Groups Links >>>>-- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Phone: 414-491-6001 Ans Service: 360-715-2467 rich.smrcina at vmassist.com Catch the WAVV! WAVV 2008 - Chattanooga - April 18-22, 2008 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 3:35 pm Re: z/VM on Hercules ronx_ronkonkoma Jun 22, 2007 What about SIE, Hercules can't be implementing that??? --- In hercules-390@yahoogroups.com, 'herculessearch' wrote: >>Can I run z/VM on top of a Hercules installation? >>Thanks in advance for your help.

>7:01 pm Re: z/VM on Hercules Jay Maynard Jun 22, 2007 On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 07:01:31PM -0000, ronx_ronkonkoma wrote: >What about SIE, Hercules can't be implementing that??? Can and does. Z/VM ir reporeted to run well under Hercules. -- Jay Maynard, K5ZC (Yes, that's me!) Buy Hercules stuff at 7:59 pm RE: z/VM on Hercules Paul Raulerson Jun 23, 2007 Not required, but sure convenient and cost effective!

J -Paul From: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hercules-390@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of William D Carroll Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 10:35 AM To: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [hercules-390] z/VM on Hercules It requires SYSG support for the INSTALLATION of z/VM from DVD It does not require SYSG support once installed. From: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hercules-390@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 9:47 AM To: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [hercules-390] z/VM on Hercules z/VM doesn't require SYSG support.

Just a non-SNA 3270 console device, if it happens to be SYSG that's fine. William D Carroll wrote: >That's a Demo Pak + zVM 5.3 which only ESP site's have at this time (until >june 29th anyways) >>Hercules lacks the SYSG support needed by zVM upto 5.2 (I can not speak for >5.3 except to say if it was designed for Flex-es they may have changed it to >allow an install from a normal console) which is an OSA-ICC Connected >Console Device. >>>>>>>>>>>>From: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hercules-390@yahoogroups.com ] On >Behalf Of Johnny Luo >Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 8:46 AM >To: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [hercules-390] z/VM on Hercules >>>>William, >>I once successfully installed z/vm 5.3 Demopkg DVDs for Flex-es under >hercules. >>I didn't see anything specifal. Do I miss something here? >>On 6/22/07, William D Carroll >>wrote: >>>>. >>>50957/stime=/nc1=4507179/nc2=3848642/nc3=4670553>>>>>>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>>>Community email addresses: >Post message: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com >Subscribe: hercules-390-subscribe@yahoogroups.com >Unsubscribe: hercules-390-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >List owner: hercules-390-owner@yahoogroups.com >>Files and archives at: >>>Get the latest version of Hercules from: >>Yahoo!

Groups Links >>>>-- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Phone: 414-491-6001 Ans Service: 360-715-2467 rich.smrcina at vmassist.com Catch the WAVV! WAVV 2008 - Chattanooga - April 18-22, 2008 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 12:24 pm RE: z/VM on Hercules William D Carroll Jun 23, 2007 If you can install z/VM from the DVD without having an existing VM installation so you can use the DVDPRIME EXEC I'd sure like to know how you get past the hardcoded SYSG console device in DVD? I am not talking a second level install, I've been through this many times on this list. To install directly from DVD, first level requires SYSG support, you can not use a CONS= statement for first level on zVM = [mailto:hercules-390@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of William D Carroll Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 10:35 AM To: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [hercules-390] z/VM on Hercules It requires SYSG support for the INSTALLATION of z/VM from DVD It does not require SYSG support once installed.

From: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hercules-390@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 9:47 AM To: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [hercules-390] z/VM on Hercules z/VM doesn't require SYSG support. Just a non-SNA 3270 console device, if it happens to be SYSG that's fine. William D Carroll wrote: >That's a Demo Pak + zVM 5.3 which only ESP site's have at this time (until >june 29th anyways) >>Hercules lacks the SYSG support needed by zVM upto 5.2 (I can not speak for >5.3 except to say if it was designed for Flex-es they may have changed it to >allow an install from a normal console) which is an OSA-ICC Connected >Console Device. >>>>>>>>>>>>From: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hercules-390@yahoogroups.com ] On >Behalf Of Johnny Luo >Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 8:46 AM >To: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [hercules-390] z/VM on Hercules >>>>William, >>I once successfully installed z/vm 5.3 Demopkg DVDs for Flex-es under >hercules. >>I didn't see anything specifal. Do I miss something here? >>On 6/22/07, William D Carroll >>wrote: >>>>.

>>>50957/stime=/nc1=4507179/nc2=3848642/nc3=4670553>>>>>>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>>>Community email addresses: >Post message: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com >Subscribe: hercules-390-subscribe@yahoogroups.com >Unsubscribe: hercules-390-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >List owner: hercules-390-owner@yahoogroups.com >>Files and archives at: >>>Get the latest version of Hercules from: >>Yahoo! Groups Links >>>>-- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Phone: 414-491-6001 Ans Service: 360-715-2467 rich.smrcina at vmassist.com Catch the WAVV! WAVV 2008 - Chattanooga - April 18-22, 2008 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 6:00 pm RE: z/VM on Hercules Paul Raulerson Jun 23, 2007 I was referring to: 'It does not require SYSG support once installed.' You can also get around it via installing from tape images of course.

It sure seems like a lot of work though. It would be better indeed if IBM would either just legitimize Herc someway or another. The open source licenses appears to be a negative issue on this perhaps. Anyway, yes, if you install from DVD, you need SYSG. How much trouble would it be to emulate SYSG? And is there any other reason to do so given how Hercules operates?

-Paul From: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hercules-390@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of William D Carroll Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 1:00 PM To: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [hercules-390] z/VM on Hercules If you can install z/VM from the DVD without having an existing VM installation so you can use the DVDPRIME EXEC I'd sure like to know how you get past the hardcoded SYSG console device in DVD? I am not talking a second level install, I've been through this many times on this list. To install directly from DVD, first level requires SYSG support, you can not use a CONS= statement for first level on zVM = [mailto:hercules-390@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Paul Raulerson Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 8:24 AM To: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [hercules-390] z/VM on Hercules Not required, but sure convenient and cost effective! J -Paul From: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hercules-390@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of William D Carroll Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 10:35 AM To: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [hercules-390] z/VM on Hercules It requires SYSG support for the INSTALLATION of z/VM from DVD It does not require SYSG support once installed. From: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hercules-390@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 9:47 AM To: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [hercules-390] z/VM on Hercules z/VM doesn't require SYSG support. Just a non-SNA 3270 console device, if it happens to be SYSG that's fine.

William D Carroll wrote: >That's a Demo Pak + zVM 5.3 which only ESP site's have at this time (until >june 29th anyways) >>Hercules lacks the SYSG support needed by zVM upto 5.2 (I can not speak for >5.3 except to say if it was designed for Flex-es they may have changed it to >allow an install from a normal console) which is an OSA-ICC Connected >Console Device. >>>>>>>>>>>>From: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hercules-390@yahoogroups.com ] On >Behalf Of Johnny Luo >Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 8:46 AM >To: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [hercules-390] z/VM on Hercules >>>>William, >>I once successfully installed z/vm 5.3 Demopkg DVDs for Flex-es under >hercules. >>I didn't see anything specifal. Do I miss something here?

>>On 6/22/07, William D Carroll >>wrote: >>>>. >>>50957/stime=/nc1=4507179/nc2=3848642/nc3=4670553>>>>>>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>>>Community email addresses: >Post message: hercules-390@yahoogroups.com >Subscribe: hercules-390-subscribe@yahoogroups.com >Unsubscribe: hercules-390-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >List owner: hercules-390-owner@yahoogroups.com >>Files and archives at: >>>Get the latest version of Hercules from: >>Yahoo! Groups Links >>>>-- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Phone: 414-491-6001 Ans Service: 360-715-2467 rich.smrcina at vmassist.com Catch the WAVV! WAVV 2008 - Chattanooga - April 18-22, 2008 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 11:29 pm Re: z/VM on Hercules Jay Maynard Jun 23, 2007 On Sat, Jun 23, 2007 at 06:29:01PM -0500, Paul Raulerson wrote: >You can also get around it via installing from tape images of course.

It >sure seems like a lot of work though. It would be better indeed if IBM would >either just legitimize Herc someway or another. The open source licenses >appears to be a negative issue on this perhaps. How do you mean?

>Anyway, yes, if you install from DVD, you need SYSG. How much trouble would >it be to emulate SYSG? And is there any other reason to do so given how >Hercules operates? I don't know if anyone has any idea how hard it would be to emulate. I don't believe it's documented. Is there a reason to emulate it? Hercules is intended to be as complete an emulation of the IBM system as we can make.

That includes every peripheral we can figure out. -- Jay Maynard, K5ZC (Yes, that's me!) Buy Hercules stuff at 11:55 pm Copyright 2007.